Re: Re-spray foils
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:28 pm
Clarification of original post: I am going to repair scratches and chips to both foils. I think we are all in agreement there is no real issue with this. Then I would like to repaint/gelcoat/finish the foils to smarten them up. Intentions: purely cosmetic. Worth noting my foils are currently grey with orange tips, was this legal to start with?
Ok, Here is my interpretation of the rules as they were when I wrote the original post: (I admit I had neglected to read the swanky new proposals. This is not meant as an attack on the old rules, it’s just what I had read at the time).
C.6.1 (a) Routine maintenance such as polishing is permitted.
- Relates to boat as a whole, (hull + appendages?). Ambiguous at best. Personally, refinishing and polishing aren’t that dissimilar, especially when prefixed with ‘such as’. If we have closed rules I don’t think ‘such as’ is appropriate.
C.8.1 (a) Routine maintenance such as polishing and the repair of damage and scratches which does not alter the shape or weight distribution of the item as originally supplied is permitted.
-Relates to hull appendages. I think it is quite clear that a re-spray/paint/finish of the whole foil would not alter the shape or weight distribution.
On to the proposed rules:
C.8.1 (a) Modifications, maintenance and repairs may be carried out but only in accordance with these class rules.
-Understood, but not massively helpful.
C.8.1 (h,I+J) (already quoted in previous post – relating to trailing and leading edge repair)
-I intend to carry out initial repairs in accordance with this, no issues here.
-Then instructed to see C.6.1.5
C.6.1.5 (a) Repairs may be carried out provided the repair:
(i) arises as a result of genuine and unintended damage. (Does wanting to make an old (064) boat look nice again count?)
(ii) is only made to the damaged area and to the minimum extent necessary to reinstate the item to its Originally Supplied condition and shape. (I assume the foils weren’t supplied grey and orange by Ovi’s, possibly already broken).
(ii) only uses Permitted material. (as defined under A.2.2 I would have to use the same white gelcoat used by Ovi’s.)
(iii) complies with these Class Rules. (Fingers crossed!)
and (iv) is done in such a way that the shape, weight distribution, characteristics, bend, performance and function of the item as Originally Supplied are not affected. (Should not be affected).
C.6.1.5 (b) No item/s may be painted other than in the immediate area of a repair or as permitted in C.2.2 above for advertising. (sounds like a no to me, unless we introduce ‘cosmetic repair’ as a new definition to the proposal (also I think you mean to reference C.4.2))
To me, under the rules currently in effect I think I can do it. Under the new proposals, it’s very clear that under a closed rule format I can’t, in fact it explicitly says I can’t.
I do think that the rules leave something unaddressed here in that older boat must therefore be left to show their war-wounds. I can’t afford new foils never-mind a new boat, so I’d like hide the wrinkles of the boat that I can! I think we could benefit from a clause being included to specifically address cosmetics in a way that can be easily gleaned from the rules without having to seek approval from higher up the food chain.
I will seek approval of ICA once I have decided how to approach the job.
Ok, Here is my interpretation of the rules as they were when I wrote the original post: (I admit I had neglected to read the swanky new proposals. This is not meant as an attack on the old rules, it’s just what I had read at the time).
C.6.1 (a) Routine maintenance such as polishing is permitted.
- Relates to boat as a whole, (hull + appendages?). Ambiguous at best. Personally, refinishing and polishing aren’t that dissimilar, especially when prefixed with ‘such as’. If we have closed rules I don’t think ‘such as’ is appropriate.
C.8.1 (a) Routine maintenance such as polishing and the repair of damage and scratches which does not alter the shape or weight distribution of the item as originally supplied is permitted.
-Relates to hull appendages. I think it is quite clear that a re-spray/paint/finish of the whole foil would not alter the shape or weight distribution.
On to the proposed rules:
C.8.1 (a) Modifications, maintenance and repairs may be carried out but only in accordance with these class rules.
-Understood, but not massively helpful.
C.8.1 (h,I+J) (already quoted in previous post – relating to trailing and leading edge repair)
-I intend to carry out initial repairs in accordance with this, no issues here.
-Then instructed to see C.6.1.5
C.6.1.5 (a) Repairs may be carried out provided the repair:
(i) arises as a result of genuine and unintended damage. (Does wanting to make an old (064) boat look nice again count?)
(ii) is only made to the damaged area and to the minimum extent necessary to reinstate the item to its Originally Supplied condition and shape. (I assume the foils weren’t supplied grey and orange by Ovi’s, possibly already broken).
(ii) only uses Permitted material. (as defined under A.2.2 I would have to use the same white gelcoat used by Ovi’s.)
(iii) complies with these Class Rules. (Fingers crossed!)
and (iv) is done in such a way that the shape, weight distribution, characteristics, bend, performance and function of the item as Originally Supplied are not affected. (Should not be affected).
C.6.1.5 (b) No item/s may be painted other than in the immediate area of a repair or as permitted in C.2.2 above for advertising. (sounds like a no to me, unless we introduce ‘cosmetic repair’ as a new definition to the proposal (also I think you mean to reference C.4.2))
To me, under the rules currently in effect I think I can do it. Under the new proposals, it’s very clear that under a closed rule format I can’t, in fact it explicitly says I can’t.
I do think that the rules leave something unaddressed here in that older boat must therefore be left to show their war-wounds. I can’t afford new foils never-mind a new boat, so I’d like hide the wrinkles of the boat that I can! I think we could benefit from a clause being included to specifically address cosmetics in a way that can be easily gleaned from the rules without having to seek approval from higher up the food chain.
I will seek approval of ICA once I have decided how to approach the job.