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C.6.1 (e) Clarification

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 11:56 am
by PaulM
This might be a stupid question but if so I am not sure why people don't do it.

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The rule reads:
Rule C.6.1 (e) A stainless steel lacing eye may be fitted or an additional hole of
maximum diameter 10mm may be drilled into the inboard side of each
wing to allow the kicking strap and / or cunningham take-up to be led into
or along the wing. This point shall be no further aft than 350mm from the
position of the supplied s/s becket.
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So the question: Is a lacing eye the same as a becket? According to google it is.

If so why do we all struggle to feed a bit of string through the wing and tie it off on the inside, and not just rivet a becket/lacing eye on the outside? Also the string means the kicker take-up runs back offset from the wing with the increased chance in catching your bouyancy aid (or something) when climbing in the boat after a quick swim. I actually had to take the knife to it this year at the BM as was caught and ended up almost underwater in the mess that followed......

Thanks

Re: C.6.1 (e) Clarification

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 12:17 pm
by Rick
PaulM wrote:If so why do we all struggle to feed a bit of string through the wing and tie it off on the inside, and not just rivet a becket/lacing eye on the outside?


Less holes an a neater solution, but a bit more fiddley so I guess you have a choice.

PaulM wrote:Also the string means the kicker take-up runs back offset from the wing with the increased chance in catching your bouyancy aid (or something) when climbing in the boat after a quick swim.


It is not mandatory it is an option; if you don't want to move it you don't have to ... I prefer them separate so it is easy to grab the right one ... also having the vang a bit further back makes it easier to pop off when trapezing.

Re: C.6.1 (e) Clarification

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 12:30 pm
by PaulM
So I can put another becket on, great.

I agree it is better to have it further back and separate for your reasons, but would say the becket is the neater solution, and reduces it catching.

Thanks

Re: C.6.1 (e) Clarification

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 12:35 pm
by Rick
PaulM wrote:So I can put another becket on, great.

I agree it is better to have it further back and separate for your reasons, but would say the becket is the neater solution, and reduces it catching.

Thanks


An eye has to have more chance of catching than a hole in a tube ...

Re: C.6.1 (e) Clarification

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 12:41 pm
by PaulM
Not the eye or the hole itself, but the elastic take up as it runs aft down the wing.

With the eye you can get the pulley right up against the wing but the hole and string the pulley is always going to be away from the wing and thus the elastic as it runs aft will be away from the wing.

Re: C.6.1 (e) Clarification

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 1:25 pm
by Rick
PaulM wrote:Not the eye or the hole itself, but the elastic take up as it runs aft down the wing.

With the eye you can get the pulley right up against the wing but the hole and string the pulley is always going to be away from the wing and thus the elastic as it runs aft will be away from the wing.


Depends on the quality of the pimping ... the other benefit of the hole/rope combo is the block always orientates correctly with the direction of pull.

One of the worst bits of the standard fit is the block is shackled to the eye limiting its rotation.

Re: C.6.1 (e) Clarification

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 2:04 pm
by paul manning
Just talking with Paul and the other option is that you mount the second lacing eye as permitted. But have both control ropes coming off the front lacing eye (either directly, or on shorp strops) and then pass the two ropes through the aft (newly fitted lacing eye) as a fairlead. This would then keep both ropes close to the inside of the wing tube.

Just a thought.

Re: C.6.1 (e) Clarification

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 3:46 pm
by DangerBoy
You could of course step over the wing after a capsize - more leverage at the last bit so you get the boat up easier when its windy.

I actually, contrary to popular set-ups, think its less to get tangled in when its like last weekend and you are stepping in and out from the hull to the wing so prefer the fwd routing.