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49ers & Mustos

Postby Chris Bridges » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:57 pm

Does anyone know what Mustos are like to sail comparably to a 49er?

Just got started with my 49er at Rutland, seem to cope OK, but as some of you might have seen if you were at the elite skiff training (although I wasn't taking part) I was in the water quite a bit.. That was the only real troublsome sailing I have had.

I would quite like to sail Mustos a bit too (when or if I find the money to buy and mantain a 49er and a musto), specially if I end up like some one did today snapping the mast!

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Postby Janus » Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:49 am

Before i moved into the musto i was crewing in 49ers and did a little helming...it is very different as like any new boat but especially with the musto it takes a little time to learn how to cope with what seems like a serious lack of hands. However the trapezing skills, balance, acceptance of multiple capsizes and fittness were all very transferable and certaintly helped!

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Postby richlowndes » Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:21 pm

Hi Chris- Kind of glad I didn't come out on your 49er the other week when Ben stepped in!- looked like far too much swimming! So who snapped their mast yesterday?

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Postby Chris Bridges » Mon Dec 03, 2007 4:52 pm

Hi,

Yea it was quite wet, wind picked up a bit while we were out, ended up getting towed in because I didn't fancy pinging the mast! Also thanks to a wind shift, I though we were going directly down wind on the haul, turned out we were heading a bit higher, with the peninsula downwind. Not too good and thats where it started to go wrong quite badly! At least nothing was broken :)

I am not sure what his name is, but I think he capsized and fell on mast or shrouds I am not sure which, but the mast looked like it was in 3 pieces. Everyone came in shortly after that, it was getting pretty windy.

I am yet to find a permenant crew for the 9er yet. At the moment a friend from school is but I am not all that certain how commited he is.. I want someone who isn't just in it for a laugh as I am hoping to sail it more than at club level.

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Postby Rick » Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:11 pm

Single handed sailors don't have crew problems :D
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Postby Chris Bridges » Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:15 pm

Very true, I thought I wouldn't have too much trouble finding a crew though. Also why I am thinking about a Musto too if I can afford it (I really doubt at the moment though) for the days I have no crew. Also really quite like the size of the Musto class at Rutland SC, nice to not travel to race against the same boat without traveling.

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Postby richlowndes » Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:42 pm

you should sell the 49er and buy a musto. then you don't have any crew problems and it's all great! It was the most annoying thing about having a Hobie. I didn't have a regular crew and although it's an easy boat to sail, you don't feel like you're really getting anywhere sailing with different people all the time.

If you want to sail the 49er at club level, then surely you're going to want to find a local club where there are a lot of them? Which obviously isn't Rutland.
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Postby Chris Bridges » Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:57 pm

I don't understand why Ben wouldn't go out on the wire when he came out with me. It meant we were not sailing as fast as we should have been, allowing power to build up in the rig making manouvers quite hard (to not take a swim). That is the way I have been taught it anyway. But thats not what caused the final capsize (during which the wind picked up :!: ), that was my mis calculation of the wind direction (although even if it was further down I suspect we would have been twin wiring)

But anyway more to the point

I said further than club level, although I didn't word it that well. At the moment Rutland is my club anyway, its a good place for 49ers (don't understand why they are not more!) and its local to school but not home but to be honest I spend more time at school and there are not really any great places near where I live anyway (North Herts).

If I don't find a permanent crew after a while I will be tempted to sell the 49er and buy a musto instead if I can handle one but for now I think I want to stick it out with the 49er and club race a musto (if I can get one).

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Postby Old Git » Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:24 pm

Have a chat with Ant. He's a member at Rutland and the senior instructor at Whitwell. I think it's fair to say that he has sailed both 49ers and Musto's to a high standard.

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Postby richlowndes » Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:59 pm

well it was pretty windy that day anyway- did you sail this weekend?
how often are you able to sail during term time, and how do you manage to get to the sailing club?
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Postby paul manning » Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:38 pm

Gareth Davies and Dan Dixon could help too, they've both spent a few years in 49ers prior to the skiff.
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Postby Chris Bridges » Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:23 pm

Ok Thanks.

How can I contact these people? Definately a more active class forum than the 49er Class!

I decided not to go out this weekend. There were a few lighter patches it would have been OK, but it was changing so quickly, when I left after doing a bit of windsurfing it was blowing force 6/7 with force 7/8 gusts.

Go down pretty much every Sunday if I can, and sail with the school in the 420s during the Summer and first half of Autumn, although they don't let me sail my own boat! (still got Sundays though). I just organise a taxi or I have a couple of friends who live nearby that sometimes give me a lift down. Its only about 10 minutes from School so its not too expensive. Spent most of my time on Sunday trying to get the wheels of the trolley to do some shore drill (which i didn't get to do in the end). The R pin and the washer were fused with rust to the wheel... At least it got done.. Got some funny looks from the club house, probably looked like I was smashing the boat with a hammer.
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Postby Rick » Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:19 pm

If you search this forum for "Gareth Davies" you will find his entry in the database; he will give you Dan's number if you still have questions
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Postby richlowndes » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:33 am

sounds like you need a big hammer or a hacksaw! (and new pins)
are you at the club on saturday? if so see you then. it's looking like another windy weekend- oh no!
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Postby Chris Bridges » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:57 am

I smacked it with the hammer for about 15 minutes then got one of those grippy things (really technical) that locks onto something and yanked it off, split in half but I managed to get the other half out.. Managed to replace so next time I want to do some shore drill it should be easier!

Its not too bad, but forecasts don't seem to be right at the moment.. At the moment I am looking to sail in Max 20 knots (mayeb bit less!!) so this weekend would be good, but I am doing a First aid Course at the club for my instructors course on Sunday. Got school on Saturdays. :(

Thanks Rick, will do.
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