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age of a boat

Postby bristollad » Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:51 am

hey guys new to the forum here

just a quick question is there any real difference in the older boats say gbr 63 in relation to say gbr 110 with the obvious wear and tear marks i was wondering more the stiffness of the boat ?

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Re: age of a boat

Postby Rick » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:42 am

Condition is more important than age ... IMHO
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Re: age of a boat

Postby bristollad » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:53 am

excellent just old my 600 so will looking to get asap have one on hold for me in colchester which was gbr 90 but there is also one in south west for 3950 gbr 65 wondering if they lose there stiffness after a certain amount of years
so am i right in saying no matter the age if you have a decent kite and main you should in the mix depending on your ability of course (much like the rs600)

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Re: age of a boat

Postby Rick » Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:02 pm

Have a look at the Eurocup series results here; Paul did pretty well in 076 http://www.mustoskiff.com/results/2011/ ... l-2011.xls

The early RS600s were Ovi built just like the MPS and I believe have proven very durable over the years.

Ian Renilson put in some top results in 127 that must have had more miles on the clock than any MPS at the time; his kit was well worn and made some of us with shiney new boats look quite average at times.

Have a look at the boats and pick the one that looks best value based on condition and price; age I would worry less about.
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Re: age of a boat

Postby bristollad » Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:46 pm

yes my 600 was 676 an ovi boat was a very fast boat and got me second at the nats at weymouth last year

great thanks for the advice

where do i got to look at prices for the sails ?

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Re: age of a boat

Postby Rick » Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:50 pm

bristollad wrote:where do i got to look at prices for the sails ?


Ovi website
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Re: age of a boat

Postby bristollad » Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:58 pm

lol :roll: of course

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Re: age of a boat

Postby paul manning » Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:16 pm

Sails are more important than the hull.
To be honest, a well sorted pimped 090 is probably better around the track than a poorly sorted 150...
There has only ever been detailing changes sinse the first boat, so they are fundamentally the same. That's the advantage of good R&D!
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Re: age of a boat

Postby bristollad » Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:22 pm

thats what i liked about the 600 you could have a 13 year old 6 and still be in the chocolates the only reason i want a musto is for the numbers that are racing :D

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Re: age of a boat

Postby bristollad » Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:52 pm

right i am off to look at gbr 63 monday as its only at chew he wants 3950 but open to offers has a apparently a decent main used 25 times a old sail 2 kites which are not great but ok according to the chap many people have said what a good clean boat it is it also has stay master adjusters and other littel things pimps on it or do i go with gbr 90 brand new top cover brand new under cover with a decent main and kite not new but he said the are ok also says the hull has a few tiny dents in it but nothing major proplem is i am properly not going to be able to look at it because of where it is so will be buying it blind

according to the sail numbers there is about 1 -2 years in difference now do i save my self 5 pound say i go with the older boat or just bite the bullit and get the newer one ? doing me head in this is and wht do i do if the hulls are in similar condition? or do i hang on and see what comes i have 4100 to spend

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Re: age of a boat

Postby Bruce » Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:02 am

Hi,

I agree with Paul, as long as the hull, mast, boom, racks and foils are structurally sound (no obvious cracks, holes, delamination or corrosion) then sails would be more important. You can get a lot of scratches and dents fixed for the price of a new kite or main. :-) In my experience a few compression dents don't make too much difference to the boat speed anyway.

Other things to consider are what has been upgraded on the boat in terms of the evolution of the class over the years, as this may save you some money in future: http://www.mustoskiff.com/sub-pages/product-evolution.htm

Check the tack area (around the vang lever) on the main to access it's condition as the mylar tends to crack/tear in that area first. If the main has a solid bolt-rope (plastic rather than rope) then that is a big bonus, as it makes hoisting/dropping the main much easier.
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Re: age of a boat

Postby bristollad » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:05 am

Bruce wrote:Hi,

I agree with Paul, as long as the hull, mast, boom, racks and foils are structurally sound (no obvious cracks, holes, delamination or corrosion) then sails would be more important. You can get a lot of scratches and dents fixed for the price of a new kite or main. :-) In my experience a few compression dents don't make too much difference to the boat speed anyway.

Other things to consider are what has been upgraded on the boat in terms of the evolution of the class over the years, as this may save you some money in future: http://www.mustoskiff.com/sub-pages/product-evolution.htm

Check the tack area (around the vang lever) on the main to access it's condition as the mylar tends to crack/tear in that area first. If the main has a solid bolt-rope (plastic rather than rope) then that is a big bonus, as it makes hoisting/dropping the main much easier.


ok bruce thanks for the help

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Re: age of a boat

Postby bristollad » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:19 am

so whit that comment in mind would you if it was in good condition go with the older boat and save a potential 500 pound?

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Re: age of a boat

Postby paul manning » Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:08 pm

Not quite...

You need to spend the money you've saved on sails.
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Re: age of a boat

Postby bristollad » Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:22 pm

he did say that one of the mains has only been used 20 odd time s


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